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Reaction: Supernatural 4.02 - Episode Reaction and Meta
Spoiler Timeline
-Sept 13:
Again, while checking to confirm that there is no non-CW option for viewing Supernatural open to me anymore, (grr,) spoiler-blocking hand was insufficiently ninja-like in its swiftness. See title of 4.02. "Are you there, God? It's me, Dean Winchester." Which... HA!!! Sorry. The Judy Blume reference is weirding me out. Anyways. I doubt Dean will need to buy a bra or figure out how to use a tampon, (though sections of fandom would explode if he did) so, sounds like Dean may be exploring religion, or the Light side, or something. *misses Pastor Jim* [Adding on Sep 18th: O.O Or, um trying to figure out that whole 'Angel rescued me from Hell and said God told him to' thing. Whoa.]
-Sept 18th:
[WARNING: Spoiler timeline for this date contains R-rated profanity]
First time watching a NEW episode on the CW (formerly watched on CityTV, which is NO LONGER airing it because CITYTV SUCKS!!!) and so my first experience of "Promo Panic". Let me elucidate.
Me: *is gawping at tv at end of episode in state of extreme flail and squee and awe and wow*
CW: "HaHAA! While you are stunned immobile, take this!" *airs promo*
Me: "NOOOO!! SPOILERS!!!" *shift mental gears rapidly, dropping straight out of a nice warm squee into a cold harsh panic, trying to simultaneously grab the remote, mute the tv, shut my eyes and jam my fingers in my ears and go LALALALALALA*
CW: "Bwahahahahahahahaaaa! Gotcha!"
Me: "Bastaaaaaaards!!!!!"
I mean, jeez, at least the other programs I watch that do that give you a 'heads up' kind of title graphic (Doctor Who, Torchwood) but... arg!
So, what I saw of 4.02 from the Promo? Huge words to the effect of "THE DEAD WILL RISE" and a great big headshot of a totally healthy-looking HENRIKSEN!!!! Which yay because OMG HENRIKSEN!!!! But still, damn it all to fiery fuck, CW!!! *is pissed*
Anyway, suspect also Ash might make an appearance, might be tough to get JDM so probably no John. Not Ellen because she's not dead. Gordon could also be returning, which would explain a resurgence of Fresh Blood-related fic at one point during the hiatus. Kind of hoping for some of the one-ep people to show up, like Sarge, Ronald, Nancy. However, budget. OMFG ANDYYYYY!!!! OR AVA! OR BOTH! Gah! PASTOR JIM AND CALEB!!!! O.O ALL OF THEEEEEM!!! Pleaseohpleaseohplease! EEEE!!!
But, y'know budget. Arg. *headdesk*
-Sept 20th:
Not a spoiler so much as a delayed mental processing of Sept 18th spoiler. Bolt out of the blue, middle of the day at work. The dead are rising, eh? So I thought, "Hey, something like that is referred to in the book of Revelation, isn't it?" So I go online and look up Revelation which I'd been meaning to do for a while. And re-read most of it. And get seriously freaked out.
Uh... wow. Either Kripke really is going for the full-on Biblical Revelation-prophesied end times, or he's working the associations something fierce and has been since the start. Which I kind of already noticed, but... eep!
So! Anyway! Yeah! Ghosts! Of dead people! Yay! Onwards! (Holy crap, Kripke! O.O)
Reactions (Plus Random Meta Outbreaks and Brain Meltage) to Supernatural 4.02 -
"Are You There God? It's Me, Dean Winchester."
(*snerk* Sorry. That title.)
Sooooo. Woo! Would it be going too far to declare the end-time prophecies of the world's major and not so major religions to be spoilery? Maybe? Yeah, I kind of figured it might be. Whoa. O.O
Incidentally, I need a new squee notebook. This one's full. :-P
-So, because of the whole dead characters coming back thing, I avoided watching the pre-Now sequence the first time through. Music twice in a row though? Hope these guys were cheap. [On rewatch: "Lonely is the Night" by Billy Squier. Hm... *googles lyrics* Woah. There's a montage with some meta possibilities. Very glad I didn't watch it the first time through, because *facepalm*]
-On the first watch I also held up my hand to block out the opening credits at the bottom of the screen so I wouldn't see which actors would appear. Discovering in the process that my hand is not as long as Charles Malik Whitfield. His name I mean. Good grief. Anyway, knew Henriksen was coming back already. Sigh.
-Book. The name of the book the woman sleeping on the couch is reading is "The Secret Teachings of All Ages" by Manly P. Hall. Ah. She's a Liberal Studies major. *nods knowingly*
-Actually, the back jacket blurb says it's a "masterly encyclopedia of ancient mythology, ritual, symbolism, and the arcane mysteries of the ages" so... Yeah. Liberal Studies major.
-Also from the Amazon excerpt of the book, it's not the most engaging reading material, but it was originally written in 1938, so mass marketability and readability wasn't really a factor. Regardless, after reading a half a page, I can see why she sacked out on the couch rather than stumble the four yards to her bed.
-Three Stooges on the TV, interesting choice.
-Lights flickering, visible breath, so either she has ghosts inbound or hasn't paid the electric bill.
-Ooo! She's a hunter! (Do they all get a deal on that mesh stuff to hang guns from?) And she has a homemade EMF! And she's a hunter Bobby knows and calls in for stuff! Olivia. I like her. I want her to meet Sam and Dean. But she's under attack before the credits so she'll be dead soon, right? Arg. Dammit Kripke! You're getting way too efficient at making me like people you're about to kill off. Or strike blind. Grr.
-That's a rather silly-looking gun... According to some Google searching, it appears to be related to something called a Mossberg Bullpup?
-Very sparse single room apartment, so probably a very active hunter. I say apartment rather than hotel room due to the volume of crap in the kitchenette area and the ... hehe. Does she keep her hoard of hunting hoohah stuck to the fridge with magnets? I like her even more if so. Also, she has a built-in bookcase. \o/
-That's not a Bullpup. What the heck is that gun? Paintball gun? Still looks silly.
-Ghosts in her home? As a hunter, doesn't she routinely have protection up for stuff like that? Or... sigh. These aren't regular ghosts. Of course.
-Heh. Bowflex commercial on the TV. Not a Three Stooges tape or DVD then.
-And for emergencies, we have an ammo case behind the salt (in massive ren-faire-style sacks which makes me wonder if at one point or another she was ever in the S.C.A.) next to the wicker laundry hamper. Why no salt line before? Also, why salt there? There's huge open fake window-things on either side. Maybe ghosts can't jump?
-What was that weird sort of 'charging camera flash' noise when she turns to face the second ghost? That was odd.
-Ooo. She went fast. Dammit! I want backstory for her... hey wait, was she one of the background people at the Roadhouse? Hey! Was she the woman Ash was hitting on in that deleted scene??? O.O I've looked but I can't tell. Maybe not. Probably not.
-Hey... was that scream in the title before? No, it wasn't! Hmm, that scream sounds familiar... Not Mary screaming from the Pilot... Not the scream that shows up in a couple places when flipping through John's Journal at the old Supernatural Warner Brothers Flash page... Arg. It's a familiar scream, and it wasn't there last week.
-Glad we got the 'groped by an angel' comment out of the way early. Dean told everyone about Castiel damn quick. Still, family *smishes Bobby too*. He's kept, what, one secret from Sam, the whole 'Ruby says I can't be saved' thing, to keep from crushing Sam's last hope before the last minute? And yay for floating the demon theory and being all rational and questioning things.
-"Another round of demon crap." Hee!
-"Because why me?" Oh Dean. Aw.
-Sam seems odd here, a little too bright and a little too perky, but I guess that makes sense. It's a shiny surface. When we last saw him at the end of Season 3, he was shattered and weeping over Dean's corpse. Four months have gone by since then, with Sam being mostly alone, sinking straight back into the scary SOB he was in Mystery Spot. He has walls like a medieval fort, even more so than when it was Mystery Spot Sam, because that time he spun right over the edge, saw how far he could go unchecked and his walls crumbled when he got to that moment of thinking he'd actually stabbed Bobby. This time around, he had the memory of those non-existent months to fall back on, proceeded to build stronger personal emotional fortifications that could still be flexible enough not to crack under stress, summoned Ruby from wherever Lillith sent her to give himself access to every resource he could gather, (and at the same time, give himself some entity to interact with who wouldn't care about him and ask how he was doing and look all mopey at him like Bobby would, dammit, Sam, I want to smack you!). Now, he seems like Sam, mostly. Dean's back, Sam's back in contact with people that care about him again and all is right with his world. Only not. He is Sam. But it's a surface, and that shows in his flattened reaction to Dean's re-appearance in 4.01 and his reversion to self, mostly, but missing the emo-boy Sam. He's got walls like second season Dean right now and we aren't going to be hearing any in-depth thoughts from him about anything that he isn't willing to share. And until he takes his own walls down, or someone breaks them down (which, wow, please?), we won't get any in-depth view of what's going on inside Sam. Dean is freaked right now about this whole being drafted out of Hell for a mission from God thing, Bobby's freaked about the apocalypse, and they care about Sam, but Sam seems all right when he's really half-floating along like it's all happening to someone else sometimes, and keeping up the shiny, shiny surface. Only he's not okay, really, he's just gotten used to faking it while Dean was gone. Sammy is still hiding in the dark, telling himself it's okay to work with the demons to stop the demons. I suspect when we start getting glimpses of what Sam was up to for the four months he was off the grid and seeing his armor start to crack (or close up completely... ulp), we'll see some really mind-blowing things about what's been going on in Sam's wounded, broken
-You know, in retrospect, if the Trickster was trying to get Sam to stop the whole Winchester Martyr Cycle thing? All he managed was to give Sam a heads up to what he'd need to do to remain more effective without Dean, and by that, going straight to Ruby and signing up for the Anti-Christ 101 seminar. Trickster. Dude. Epic fail.
-Aaaaaanyway. Holy crap. Sorry, I appear to have dribbled some meta. Let me get a mop. :-P Moving on now.
-((I take notes in super point form on the first run through. Sometimes one or two words to trigger a memory when I go to transcribe. Here I have Pony Cap here. I don't know why. It wasn't Bobby's hat.... Ohhh, Party Hat. WTF, notes?)) "Strap on your party hat!" \o/ That needs an icon.
-Hee. "Start readin'" Though check online at Project Gutenberg first, guys; some of those books might be in there and searchable, because if they're old, they likely don't have an index and it's gonna be a giant pain to winnow the data.
-Pie!? NO! DON'T SEND SAM FOR PIE!!! *has anxiety* the last time you sent Sam for pie he ended up getting kidnapped by YED for the Psychic-Kid Showdown and everyone knows what happened after that! O.O
-Hee! Dean takes the smallest book in the pile. Smartass.
-Actually, that pie-before-YEDnappage probably was the only time Sam forgot to bring Dean his pie....
-*squints* Is that Ruby? She looks different in daylight. She sounds... marginally better and is managing to do 'vaguely freaked'. Although "An angel is in town and hanging out with your protege's brother" might be a cause for something more than 'vaguely freaked' from a demon. Still doesn't seem like Ruby. :-/
-Heh. Angel in town? Presence of an actual potential threat to herself or Sam? "Byeeeeee!" Yeah. Deserting her 'chosen leader' when the chips are down. That's Ruby. Grr.
-Smiting! Yay! Looking forward to some smiting sometime!
-"I don't really wanna." What the heck is up with this chick's diction? It's not Ruby-ish at all! This is like Ruby's kid sister who's trying to wear the 'big girl' shoes. Well, except for the whole desertion under fire thing. She's got that down cold. :-P
-TRUNK! Bobby's trunk still has the Seal in it from "Magnificent Seven"! Car continuity FTW!! \o/ Wonder how long he's had that, really? I'm suspecting probably before Mag7 by a long ways.
-Dead Hunter's name is Olivia Lowry, or Lowery, and she's 'one state over' from Bobby's. Just in case anyone felt like writing some backstory for her or something.
-"Scoot over." Hee! Yep. Four months in hell, misses his baby. *smishes Metallicar*
-"Where's the pie?" Aw. No pie. *pats Dean* Well, he's been in Hell four months, he's missed an awful lot of pie.
-You know, Sam may not have been kidnapped this time, but he was sort of waylaid by a demon. So, Sam forgetting the pie = Demonic encounter? Hmm. Twice is coincidence...
-Aw. Bobby's reaction to the sight of Olivia makes me wonder if there aren't a few solo hunters Bobby's sort of avuncularly keeping an eye out for. Not to the extent of Sam and Dean, obviously, 'coz he's all but adopted them, but a few hunters he keeps tabs on, makes sure they aren't going nuts, keeps them grounded, stable and in contact with the world outside their own hunt, and not flaming out in revenge and despair, just by calling every so often, inviting them in for a beer, etc. Which in turn makes me think of John, and wonder exactly what happened there... although at this point I'm pretty sure I could guess. :-/
-*digs out the meta-mop again* Sorry, sorry...
-Is it just me or does Sam have a moment of extra-textual worry when Bobby comes in saying he called Hunters... I'm pretty sure in the four months of being on his own, working with a demon, and out from under the protective umbrella of Bobby he's managed to attract a fan club of sorts...
-Heh, you know, Jared has gotten subtle with his acting since he started on this show. Watch his eyes when he's talking to Dean and Bobby. Watch the shifts of facial expression, how he looks when he knows people are watching, little twitches and shifts when certain topics come up. He's got so much going on internally, and keeping it all hidden and under control. Cool.
-'Hi Jed! Dean Winchester here. You probably have heard of me, with that whole giant Devil's Gate thing a while back with letting 200 demons out of Hell, and the thing about my little brother being maybe the anti-christ, and me dying and going to Hell and all that and being gone four months while Sam no doubt tapped every hunter and weird resource he could find trying to get me back out of Hell? And then the first hunter outside of Bobby or Sam I came into contact with suddenly getting her eyes burned out of her face in a way that's probably not suspicious at all to anyone not privy to all the details, like, oh, everybody in the hunting community? Yeah, that Dean Winchester. I'm hanging out with Bobby and there's something going after hunters and for all you know it's me and my brother. Give us a call would you?' *facepalm* Reputations. They aren't always good. Might think of that there, Dean.
-Hi Jed! Hi Jed's ribcage! Looks like you won't have to worry about that reputation thing with this guy, Dean. But do remember to wipe the guy's phone messages when you inevitably go over there and leave fingerprints and DNA all over the crime scene, hmm?
-I wonder if Jed was played by one of the stunt guys. It wouldn't be a hard part to read for. Heh. There'd be a promotional contest they could run. First prize: getting flown to Vancouver to be a random corpse in an episode of Supernatural.
-[O.O Why the hell is Ironman using Metallicar's song?? Who hasn't AC/DC sold that song to? It's not as bad as Audrey Hepburn a year or so back, but really! *huffs*]
-Carl Bates, R. C. Adams... I guess they were less close to Bobby, given the snark level with which he reports their deaths. Getting some retroactive hunter population this episode. Heh. Anyone got an OC Hunter in fic or an RPG by those names? That'd be a hell of a shout-out.
-CW, GET YOUR GREEN CRAP AND YOUR CAR CONTEST OFF MY SCREEN! Arg.
-...There's someone watching Sam pull up to the pumps... Ruby? Some other hunter? That's weird. It wouldn't be a ghost, because they just poof around, right?
-Hey, where's Dean while Sam's wandering away from Metallicar leaving the gas pump running??? Oh. Asleep. Inside the car. The awesome car with gas running unmonitored into it. *facepalm* Sam, go directly to
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kroki_refur and collect a drunken bitchface from yourself. Honestly.-Although I guess four months on his own, no one else to watch the gas while Sam and his apparently tiny bladder could not wait until he'd finished filling the tank to go pee. And I guess pumping gas might have a kind of diuretic effect. But still.
-Anyway. Sleepy Dean, aw. His neck is gonna kill him when he wakes up.
-Henriksen. Aw. Damn. There goes the last faint hope this would be actual Henriksen, alive and well and back from several months of hunting evil in Tahiti with Nancy. What? It was a possibility. I really wish he wasn't dead. He kicked ass and would have been awesome as a recurring ally or adversary. But C.M. Whitfield has a gig on another show now. Between him and JDM, I sometimes feel like Supernatural is the 'farm team' for Hollywood. :-P
-Why are there lockers in a gas station washroom? Also, that's a huge washroom. Maybe it's an auxiliary storeroom that happens to have toilet facilities? I've seen that before.
-I wonder why Henriksen's ghost didn't immediately kill Sam (aside from the obvious Main Character Shield he, Dean (and Bobby? Please?) have that protects them from instant, non-arc-related death) He also talked and interacted, unlike Olivia's ghosts who just showed up and loomed until they ripped her heart out. Or maybe some ghosts like whumpage too.
-Sam, you are very lucky that your brother wakes up shooting. At least when he hasn't had coffee. Maybe it's an either/or thing for Dean. If there isn't caffeine, there better be something to shoot at. No wonder I identify so strongly with him! :-D
-Ooo. Incoming. Cue Bobby's wife? Though there's giggling and she didn't seem to be much of a giggler.
-I want a floor plan of Bobby's house. Seriously. There were two doors that went into either side of a closetty space off the kitchen there, there's the sliding doors... staircase. I want a floorplan.
-Why are all these ghosts able to bypass the anti-ghost crap most hunters probably have up anyway? Especially Bobby's, because everything he does is ten times as awesome as everyone else, although I'd understand if he's more demon-focussed.
-...I hear kids laughing... Bobby and his wife didn't have a kid, did they?
-OOOO!!! *flails* BALL DOWN THE STAIRS!! Wow, a horror movie reference I recognize!! That's... ahhh, bugger. What's it called. The Changeling!! That movie freaked me right the hell out. Primarily because the power flicked while I was watching it with this jerk I was with, who laughed and mocked me. I was living in a place that had I swear the exact same staircase, so when the jerk left and I had to go up the stairs with no lights except a little freaky orange light filtering in from the steetlights outside... yeah. Totally messed me up. Awesome movie. Just don't watch it with an asshole. *nods*
-Creepy little girls! \o/
-Oh no you don't, Kripke! Don't kill Bobby! No way!
-"If you're not thinking of answers, then don't think at all." Aw. Sam was working his way into a good emo whinge about failing and subsequent wallow in guilty self-pity (which he probably hasn't allowed himself to do for four months, since who's he going to talk to, Ruby who'll tell him to suck it up?) wherein he might have allowed his wall to start cracking a little, but Bobby's in trouble with a good chance of getting eviscerated, so Dean's... heh. Dean's gone into 'protect family' mode. Like at the start of Devil's Trap for John, almost. Because he really does think of Bobby as.... Awwwwwwwwww. *flails*
-Unfortunately as 'Family don't end with blood, boy' schmoopy as that is, it screws Sam over for the calculated burst of emo he was trying conciously or unconsciously to let loose to ease some of the pressure on his personal fortifications. So, Sam crams the sharing down again and the pressure keeps building, because he's gotten too good at externally being himself without letting himself be vulnerable that even Dean's missing the cues, and missing that it's a little weirdly toned for Sam's usual emo moments, so instead of a gradual easing of pressure and lowering of defenses for Sam, we're going to get a sudden huge explosion that comes out of nowhere and people are gonna get pinned to walls and freak right the hell out about it and it's gonna be SO. DAMN. AWESOME. \o/
-What the heck, meta? *mops again*
-Yay, new Impala transition shot! ... no, wait... The Impala in the transition shot still has its SPOTLIGHTS, KRIPKE so it's a shot from a prior season that isn't as familiar to me. Yay, budget saving! *pointedly glares at that guest director that removed the Impala's spotlights last season again some more*
-Bobby's junk yard! Ooo... I see dead Impalas, I think. The blue one and the gold one. Two-door models. I could be wrong. Still I think it's sweet if Bobby's collecting parts cars for the boys. Awww.
-Kids are holding Bobby captive... Why? Not that I want Bobby to get hurt, but Olivia's ghosts were pretty direct and to the point, and Henriksen started in with the whumping of Sam straight off.
-Hall! It's the hall! The hall of a million paintjobs, from Dream a Little Dream of Me, Mystery Spot, Time Is On My Side, many many others. And it's upstairs at Bobby's too! With stained glass and odd lighting and a big old radiator and art of some kind and- I love that hall!
-"Come out, come out, whoever you are..." Heeee!
-OMG! MEG!! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! \o/ HI MEG! OMG!!! YOU GUYS! IT'S FRIGGING MEG!!! Was not expecting her. Damn I missed Nicki Aycox!! Man, am I glad I didn't watch the credits and she has a short name. Woo! Meg!
-Gee, Human!Meg has a rather conservative view of 'slut-wear'... Maybe it was all the leather Demon!Meg used to wear. Some people equate leather with some really bizarre things. I view leather (or fake leather) as a practical material which provides some resistance to say, knives and claws. I don't wear it myself, but on an adventurer/adversary character/someone in a vocation which may involve close combat with sharpish things, it's very practical. If Human!Meg's that conservative, though, she shouldn't be wearing that shirt. It exposes her entire collarbone, after all. It might incite lewd thoughts! Scandalous! ;-)
-[Ad: Strangely skeezy T-Mobile family guy is not allowed to say 'Dude'. Just no. :-P]
-Meatsuit issues getting addressed! Or acknowledged. Cool.
-Hm... Is someone controlling the memories of the ghosts to shift them towards vengeance faster? Or maybe Demon!Meg rubbed off on Human!Meg.
-Ooo, symbol. Ghost!Meg got a... burn? Eeeeeek. What makes a burn on a ghost?
-"You think you're some kind of a hero?"/"No I don't." Oh, Dean! Sometimes I want to shake him 'til his brains rattle.
-Aw... Bobby not saving two little girls on a hunt. Owww. Oh Bobby. Man, these kids are creepy!
-I think I see why they aren't ripping Bobby's heart out right away. They're emulating their final experience. Trapped alone with a monster, listening while a rescuer searches for them and doesn't find them in time. Eee. Which also explains Meg beating the crap out of Dean, because of the 'dropped out of a window'/'shot with fake Colt'/'rough exorcism' thing, she's trying to get him to go through what she did in some way. So Olivia's lost victims must have been relatively insta-death victims, so they cut straight to the chase. Or the heart. *nods* Except that totally doesn't explain Henriksen, because he went out in a nukey-hand thing with the explosion. Hm. Arg.
-Little sister. Whoa, Meg's dropping a big ol' anvil there.
-50 words of Latin? The exorcism's only 50 words? *checks Super-wiki* I'm coming up with about 127 there...
-Wow. Eagle-eyed Sammy, spotting frost melting on a rear view mirror 10 feet up... Maybe it's some kind of psychic thingy that let him see that. Yeah.
-Vaulting of wrecked cars! I thing that could be taken as canon evidence for all the 'lil Sam 'n' Dean used to play in Bobby's junk yard.' Ooo! And the spotting the frost on the mirror could be a hold over of using the mirrors of cars in various positions to see if someone was sneaking up on your position! Ooo! And practice for being sneaky later in life! Yay! It all makes sense! \o/ (Well, to me anyways.) *pats the boys*
-No, wait, the mirror cracked and made a noise. Darn.
-Hee! Bobby has awesome light fixtures!
-Whoa. Sam's developed eidetic memory and speed-doodling in the four months Dean's been gone. A symbol glimpsed for a split second while in combat took him 5 seconds to draw from memory. Remember back in first season, "Home" when he took all morning to draw a tree that had been in a vision? Sam's getting skills besides the psychic stuff. Unless this is psychic too, somehow?
-"Someplace safe, ya idjit!" Hee! *pats Jim Beaver* He's gonna be stuck saying 'idjit' for a loooong long time because of this show. I've added it to my spell-check dictionary.
-Bobby has a- OH SWEET! DOOD! THAT ROCKS!!! A bunker! With weapons and research and a bloody fan grate the shape of a Solomon seal thing, and it's iron and it's fantastic!! An apocalypse-proof bunker! Sort of.
-Iron coated in salt sounds like a recipe for extreme rust. But Bobby made it so it's too infused with pure awesome to rust. *nods*
-No, Sam, it's not a panic room, because Bobby doesn't panic. It's a fortified re-grouping location. Der.
-"I had a weekend off." *glomphs Bobby* HA!
-Hey! I bet it'd do okay on a zombie uprising too. I dunno about that vent/air fan/grate thing at the top, though. It's going to keep demons out, yeah, and ghosts, and zombies.... but what about rain? Or a flood? Or the demons pouring in some kind of- Okay, brain? Shut up now. It's a good bunker. No thinking about what demons might come up with to pour in through the fan at the top. At all. Eeeeeeep! O.O
-Making salt shells! *glee* Half the reason these reaction posts are so long is there are all these cool little details to get giddy over.
-Ooo... Mark of the Witness... and wow. Revelations. Wow. Uh. So. Um. Meep? O.O
-...is it just me, or does Sam's facial expression slide through a couple variations on guilty there when Bobby mentions the apocalypse? I think so! Well done Jared! Not like we don't all know what's been going on with you. There's a peek past that wall there.
-Grand Canyon, Star Trek Experience, Bunny Ranch. Heeee! Dean's apocalypse tour.
-I so very very much want a map of Bobby's place. It's like a frigging wizard's tower.
-RONALD! \o/ Hi Ronald! You were on my hope-to-see list! But, wait... He wasn't a witness to supernatural at death, he got shot in the back by a police sniper. Maybe just having seen and known about the Shifter and died on Sam and Dean's watch was enough?
-Bobby is out-awesoming himself. How much do I LOVE that Bobby has all this hidden arcane crap and spell components stashed all over the house? What did I say? Wizard's lair. I want maps.
-Hemlock, Opium, Wormwood... That's, what, two poisons and, well, opium. That's some nasty crap you're concocting there Bobby.
-"While that monster ate us all up." Hee! Kid-speak from the kid ghosts! Cute makes evil eviler!
-"How many bodies has Ruby burned through for kicks?" Awesome! Leave it to Meg to cut through several layers of BS about how Ruby is just trying to help them and not hurting anyone. 'Bout time someone rubbed his nose in that factoid. (Though I still hope Sam's making Ruby rotate bodies so they don't burn out, because I do not like the new one, more than I didn't like the old one. I mean I like this one less than I liked the previous one which I didn't like much. I mean... ah screw it. I don't like the actress. There. I said it. Moving on.)
-And Sam's response? He walls right up and shoots her in the face. Ow. Sam is a very very broken boy behind that wall. I'm guessing in the search for a way to bring Dean back and the subsequent stated mission of vengeance against Lilith, he's pushed himself past a lot of his personal boundaries of what is right and what is wrong in the name of saving Dean (which he did not manage to accomplish and had given up on) and avenging Dean by going to war with Lilith (I still wonder if he's raising his own army of demons with a kind of 'join me or go back to Hell' thing as he encounters them, which eee) and he's keeping himself as dissociated from those decisions and crossings of boundaries as he can to keep functioning and coping with the world. So when confronted flat-out with one of these boundaries he's crossed and continuing to cross, he closes up and goes hard in the eyes, and makes her go away. This is Mystery Spot Sam. Only less fragile and more controlled. And right there he's scaring the crap out of me.
-*wrings out meta mop* Geez.
-Bobby keeps his cutlery in an odd drawer, but I guess he needed space for the spell components. Why not just stick em in spice jars though? Bobby doesn't look like he's whipping up meals involving a spice rack, but I guess one day he might get a hankering for some cinnamon toast and end up with hallucinations about giant tap-dancing badgers. Under the cutlery works. *nods*
-Why, why, why does Henriksen have to be dead? He's too damn awesome to be dead. I'm telling you, he and Nancy escaped and became hunters in Tahiti. Or somewhere. Dammit!
-[Also if he was still alive and on the show frequently, I might actually manage to spell his name the same way twice. *looks up old screencap* Henriksen. Got it.]
-"You think you left, then Lilith came and we all died in a beautiful blast of white light?" Well... yeah. That was kind of implied I thought, but apparently not.
-45 minutes with Lilith. Eeeeyipes. Oh. Well. That explains the lack of instant death from Henriksen at least. Still. Yeow. Poor Nancy. Poor everybody.
-Ooooo... Dean guilt! The whole expression thing he goes through, finding out what happened to Nancy (eep!) and everyone... At first he was trying to keep Ghost!Henriksen from noticing he's going for the salt gun, but now he's just twitching with remorse and guilt and oooo. Henriksen went for his heart. Think that's connected maybe? Heart = guilt?
-Also, how many things have gone after/hurt Dean's heart now? Taser, YED-in-John probably, that ghost nurse in Folsom Prison Blues, Hellhound.... I'm sure I'm forgetting a few.
-Wind! Wind = Bye bye salt lines, yes? Yes. Noticing that salt-lines are wider and less cohesive this year. Is that a hunting trend or a change in brand of salt used because of the budget, or just because they were spread in excessive haste. *ponders*
-Hee! It's like a video game! Or whack-a-mole, but with ghosts! Oooo! Oooo! It's just like Duck Hunt! Jo would've kicked ass at this! :-D
-Henriksen's half-smiling 'Come on, seriously?' face! WHYYYYYYY DOES HE HAVE TO BE DEAD?!??!?
-NOOOOOO! NOT BOBBY, DAMMIT!!! (See, Dean gets his heart grabbed but Meg goes for Bobby's... kidney, I guess? There's gotta be something to that. *nods sagely*)
-Oh hey, look! That's the same bookcase as in Born Under a Bad Sign! Yay set continuity!!! \o/
-Bobby! Don't be dead Bobby! Oh yay. Hoo. Jeez. Yay for salt guns. I'm gonna have a frigging heart attack before this season's over!
-[GG AD: Heard the starting voice over as "I'm the only girl with the clap." Hmm. O.o]
-Naw, sleepy boys! Of course Dean takes the floor, even though Sam on that couch is like a Great Dane in a shoebox. Floor's better. Couches sag and are lumpy and weird and you fall off them and when you wake up your spine's stuck in a weird position and it hurts like hell. Floor, nice and flat. Great for the back.
-Ooo. Thunder? Oh hey! Wings, kind of! Awesome!
-Hi Castiel! Did you get the trenchcoat and suit fixed? Looks like... I think... Damn, it's dark in Bobby's kitchen.
-"Michael Landon. Not dicks." Hee. Dean vs angel snarkage, yay!
-Hee. "I'm not here to perch on your shoulder." Awwww. Why not?
-I love that Dean's all snap and anger and so forth because he's had a lifetime of disbelieving and resenting angels for his mom's death and his family's entire history and that huge chip on his shoulder ain't gonna dissolve overnight. Also these guys play off each other SO. DAMN. WELL! \o/
-HA!!! Dean's face after he realizes he's just threatened to kick Castiel's ass! HEE!
-Hang on. "We're here"? We? Who's we, Angel Sabe...?
-Sixty-six seals and Lilith is breaking them. Oooooo. And on this one, targeting Hunters. Oooo! I like Lilith (well, not like, but like as an adversary character) She has some strategic thinking going on there. Reducing humanity's capacity to retaliate.
-Walking among you. Ooo. 2000 years, hunh? There goes my theory that Mary and Jess and the other ceiling fire victims might be angel-ridden in some way... Or not...? Hm.
-Other battles! Yes! One thing I love about a fictional world, whether it's in TV, movies, books, or RPG's is a world where things still happen 'off-screen' that don't directly involve the main characters. It makes the world more alive and adds depth and reality to the setting and situation. Even the reality of an angelic A-Team putting out fires in the background while the Winchesters get up to speed. *nods*
-"You think the armies of Heaven should just follow you around?" Eeeep. Um. Ooo. Um. Implications there. Whoa. Cannot brain. O.O
-As a distraction I shall note that my VCR likes Castiel too. Not a goofy face paused on yet.
-Castiel last week thought Dean would be able to hear him but he didn't, so maybe there's a hint of 'Boss said save you, but you're just a snippy mortal, whassup with that?' Also Castiel's gotta be getting irritated. I so very much want to see Castiel furious at something. Hopefully not a Winchester, but seriously. The energy and power he's giving in this bit is just wow and seriously, dude! *babbles incomprehensibly* O.O
-Ooo. Threat to send Dean back. Hee. Your Boss isn't going to like that. [It made me fic.]
-HA! And it was all a dream.
-Sam makes that couch look so tiny! XD
-Sam still believes in angels and a capital-G God, and is working with a demon to tap his demon-granted powers... hm... Very broken boy.
-Dean's going to tell them everything, about the seals, and Lilith, and Lucifer, and angels dying, and all that jazz, I think. He's got that "I can't believe I'm about to tell you this..." look. And given how he reacted back in season 1 to Sam's dream in 'Home'? He's gotta expect some payback teasing.
Thus ends the first squee pad of the season. The new one is 200 pages long. Do your worst, Kripke. (Only, y'know, don't. O.O)
(Has anyone read this far? Hello! *waves* I'm almost done yapping. :-P )
I know this Season is getting into thorny territory for some, but I've said before and I'll say it again. I'm in no matter what.
Kripke's taking some liberties with the source material, which is probably a good thing all things considered. It's so weird to think of the book of Revelation as a spoiler. O.o Ha. No. It's research material. Although I will tell you right now, this may be one time where I'm stepping back from immediately diving into the research of something, because my brief trip through the book of Revelation seriously baked my noodle, and taking a quick glance through Mayan, Zoroastrian and Buddhist stuff did about the same. O.o
I do very much like that Kripke seems to be hinting at taking a 'through a glass darkly' approach to it, where what's actually going on has been predicted, prophesied, augured, etc by cultures all through civilization, pre-biblical, biblical, non-judeo-christian and so forth, but none are the exact version. Sort of like the various prophets and seers in different cultures have been playing 'broken telephone' with the source of the information, and the different versions from different cultures leading in parts to the actual what's going to happen. I'm really hoping they get into multiple culture's versions of end-time prophecy, and for various reasons, I think they will.
Please note: If the Trickster ever shows up again, only this time with some mistletoe bullets? I may shriek and seriously injure myself from the flailing. :-)
NO SPOILERS OR REFERENCES TO PROMO FOR NEXT WEEK IN COMMENTS PLEASE! :-)
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(Anonymous) 2008-09-28 08:27 am (UTC)(link)Sharon
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great review!
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(Anonymous) 2008-09-28 08:44 am (UTC)(link)Sharon--really, going to bed now:P
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Ha! No, although the prospect of staring at hours of their work and picking up on the nuances of expression doesn't sound that bad. :-D
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And you're going to make me want to write Supernatural fic now (like I need another addiction). Castiel is too tasty for words.
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Doooo Eeeeet! I am nothing if not an enabler. *nods*
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So glad I'm not the only one trying to figure out the layout of Bobby's house. That's not a panic room, it's the Batcave. Loved Dean's expression when he saw it, total awe and glee. Kinda wondered how the boys hadn't spotted the air inlet before now though. Maybe he keeps it covered like it's just a cellar door until he needs it.
I'm not sure Dean and Castiel's conversation was a dream. I thought Castiel put him back on the floor asleep to freak him out. I'm probably overthinking it.
Had the same reactions to most of those scenes as you did. With you on the hoping for multiple culture's end-time prophecies. Cause a few people are annoying me right being being so happy and self-rightous that *their* version seems to be what Kripke's using.
I thought I was spoiler-phobic, but I do watch the clips for next week's episode, but I won't say anything about it to you ;) I'm so crappy with actor's names that a lot of times I watch the credits and still don't realize who's going to show up. Much as I liked seeing Victor(can't spell his last name) again, I'd almost rather we hadn't, cause then we could still hope he and Nancy and the others survived. Loved seeing Meg again! Still wish they'd just brought Nicki back as Meg's cousin or sister or something who was trying to find out what happened to her. She can look so different with a different hair style/color.
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Pft. Yeah, sure. :-P
Kinda wondered how the boys hadn't spotted the air inlet before now though
It could be out in the bush somewhere near the house around where he was testing the Colt, or inbetween the cars in the junk yard? Or maybe masquerading as an old well, or a fake oil barrel, so passers-by couldn't see the grate and fan at the bottom?
I won't say anything about it to you ;)
Thank you, I appreciate that.
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I can't wait to rewatch and notice all the facial twitches and whatnot. :)
PS How's your quest going for the headphones by the way? ;)
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I hope I'm right! It is going to be killer, especially if for one reason or another he keeps getting emo-blocked when he's trying to step himself down from the four months of condition red emotional lockdown.
I can't wait to rewatch and notice all the facial twitches and whatnot. :)
I noticed it most when Bobby mentions calling other hunters, and at first when the talk about the apocalypse starts. There's some other times where you think there should be a less surface-y reaction from Sam about something, where it seems like something's missing or off. And the scene in the car, and the scene with Meg. I really hope I'm right and not just reading things in. I need to watch it again myself, oh the hardship ;-)
PS How's your quest going for the headphones by the way? ;)
Pretty miserable. I haven't had a chance to do a thorough search of town yet, and the only place that ships to Canada that has them online won't take Paypal for them for some weird reason. Need to wait til I get paid. In the meantime, my neighbours can put up with my pathetic speakers. :-)
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Sam, go directly to [info]kroki_refur and collect a drunken bitchface from yourself. Honestly.
*dies laughing*
No, Sam, it's not a panic room, because Bobby doesn't panic. It's a fortified re-grouping location. Der.
*snerk* That reminds me of the Toaster Incident story of yours with John strategically retreating...
I totally agree with your Sam big-explosion-coming prediction, BTW! \o/
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*snerk* That reminds me of the Toaster Incident story of yours with John strategically retreating...
I get the feeling Bobby might have a military history as well as being awesome.
I totally agree with your Sam big-explosion-coming prediction, BTW! \o/
I would so love to see Sam just snap and, like, reflexively do that whole demon signature 'pin-you-to-the-wall' schtick to Dean in mid blow up. Sam's reaction to doing that, Dean's reaction to that, Sam's reaction to Dean's reaction... eee. Of course after that he'd probably end up running off on his own (or back to Ruby since she's too chicken to hang out with him and risk her own borrowed hide vs Castiel) and Dean and Bobby would be trying to bring him back while other hunters were trying to hunt Sam down (because seriously, there must be some after him and Bobby's been drinking for four months and they would probably know not to let him into the loop) and so forth.