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Torchwood Reactions: 2.12-2.13
Reactions to Torchwood 2.12 and 2.13
I knew Tosh and Owen were going to die going into the finale for Torchwood, so arg. Though I was kind of thinking one of them might die during Fragments. Also knew that Captain John would be back, but not as a spoiler because, hellooooo he's got a big old dangling plotline that needs resolved or addressed.
Also a little different because I've watched them through once with the gang *waves to gang* So there will be retroactive-in-advance reactions to things that are going to be happening later on. Or something like that.
Torchwood 2.12 - Fragments
-First off, CANON BACKSTORY COOL!! \o/Even cooler because beyond the obvious stuff for Jack and for Gwen, I hadn't put enough thought into backstory for the characters in this series yet to have a pet theory that this contradicts, so yay!
-Ianto's hard on tires... Or was Jack driving?
-That the bombs give off signals like lifeforms is really cool. I kind of hope it's some artificial 'Hi! I'm a Lifeform!" signal and not that John's trapped lifeforms of some kind inside the bombs, which would be entirely possible, but kinda grim.
-I LOVE THIS BUILDING!!! With all the space and the brick... alley... stall... whatsis thingys in the middle of the room.
-What the heck is Jack pointing his gun at half the time? Right now on pause he's lethally menacing a brick wall.
-Also, John Barrowman's eyebrows are scary. Just when he's on pause though.
-Hee! Owen using hand signals with Ianto. *glee*
-"These creatures are very quiet." Entirely unlike Captain Jack with the talking out loud at full volume there. Twit. At least Owen lowers his voice.
-Ya know, for being at ground zero here, the team survived quite well. Good bomb placement though, for maximum separation of team members.
-Gwen misses getting blown up with the team because she slept in? That's kind of lame. Looks like it was a hell of a party, though, counting the alcohol bottles in the bedroom (nine in the current pause frame), the candles balloons and ribbons, and the fact that Rhys is sleeping the wrong way around on the bed. Hee.
-"1392 deaths earlier." Hee.
-Yeah, the two women calmly watching a dead man come back to life in a gaslight-era alley aren't Torchwood at aaaaaall.
-"Why aren't you dead yet?" *snerk* Love how bored and annoyed she sounds.
-Phantasmagoria is a word that is not used nearly as often as it should be. *nods*
-"He re-fuels from that rift you have." Hm. Okay. On occasion.
-Okay, most of the infractions Jack lists off involve being seen by humans. How does the blowfish kid do that without people noticing he's got the head of a fish? Does he have a personal Chameleon circuit or what? Or maybe Wales had an outbreak of Deep Ones and this 'people looking like fish' business is old hat.
-Torchwood/Call of Cthulhu. Ooo.
-WHOA!!! Hold on. Victorian Era Torchwood has a freaking SUBMARINE??? In that shot of the round door with the bridge thing and the crane, at the bottom there's something that looks like a submarine. Awesome! Maybe it isn't though.
-Wow, paper money back then was flimsy.
-The brown-haired Torchwood woman (who, seriously, how old is she, 18?) looks a bit like Susie...
-Hm. Apparently non-discriminatory flirting has always been a facet of Torchwood hiring practices. Cool.
-I love that they brought the girl from "Day in the Death" in. She's awesome and now I really want to know about her. I hope they have her again next season. She hasn't aged, she's psychic, and she's very connected to Torchwood in some unspecified way, I think. Nifty.
-The Doctor is the Knight of Swords? I always figured him more as... well, I don't know really because I know nothing about Tarot. One of the Major Arcana for sure.
-Hee. So Jack joined Torchwood so he wouldn't get bored waiting for the Doctor to show up. And then it took him a century before he got command of the place. Not an upwardly-mobile fellow is our Jack, hrm?
-Love the report montage, with the different record-keeping methods and so forth. It pings the writing geek in me big time.
-Not going to transcribe all the report writing going on though, because I bet someone else already has.
-Also, the office-supplies-obsessed part of me geeks out totally at the different methods of securing Jack's photo to the report. Eeee! Straight pin! Hee!
-I'm also sure someone's isolated that old Torchwood logo. I forget, have they ever said what's up with the hexagons? Not that hexagons aren't totally awesome and stuff, I just kind of wonder why Torchwood picked them.
-New Year's Eve! 1999! AKA The night the Fox Tele-movie happened, and over inOMG Vancouver!!! San Francisco, the Doctor that looks like Paul McGann (and is delusional or something and thinks his mom was human but he's an amnesiac and quite cute so we'll pat him on the head and forget about that bit) is fending off an acid-spitting fashion-conscious zombie possessed by the silvery snake remains of the Master or something and there's kissing and nipples and a plotline that's on ten tons of crack but it's still cool because it was the first new Who on TV in so damn long he could have regenerated into a giant duck and it would still have been awesome. Also I suspect the movie made RTD go 'oh, hell no' and encouraged him to bring back Doctor Who for real, and for instigating that, I will forgive the FOX network a plethora of sins. Except maybe canceling 'Drive'.
-*koff* So yeah. For those who weren't aware of this previously, I've been a Doctor Who fan for a long time. Just quietly.
-Anyway, the net result of events in San Francisco at the Y2K New Year is 'nothing happened' so I guess the canon of 'nothing happening' has been confirmed. Woo?
-Also, the 21st century technically didn't start 'til 2001, so buddy here could have gone an entire year before offing his team.
-Hee! Jack sounds all happy and teenagery coming into Torchwood and hanging up his coat.
-A century and a murder-suicide to get promoted to head of Torchwood 3. They really didn't trust him, hunh? I guess the whole 'trying to find the Doctor' went against Torchwood's whole foundation of "Doctor=threat to the empire" Kind of like becoming the head of Microsoft and being an avowed Mac user, I guess. Hm...
-Blue shiny pendant thing that knows the future. Ooooo...
-It's interesting that Jack's the least covered in rubble, yet he's the one that got killed in the blast. Well, kind of obvious really, but there you are.
-HEEE! Rhys! "He was dead!" *snerk* They'll make an operative out of you yet, boyo.
-Heee! To Jack's reaction to Rhys. Awesome. :-D
-I like Tosh's backstory. It suits her well.
-How thoughtful of whatever organization Tosh is working for to have a vision-impaired-friendly readout for its "what part of the archive are the super-secret plans in" thingy. Or for those occasions when you're far away from the screen. Like say in the building across the street. Yeesh.
-Yeah, the motion-sensitive lights coming on as she runs down the hallway aren't suspicious at all.
-Does no one in TV-land care about leaving fingerprints behind anymore?
-Okay, there was no identifying code on that envelope... meh. Maybe it was on a shelf tag. Like at a grocery store. Yeah. *handwaves*
-I still say that blueprint of the tube thing looks like the thing that's often on the screen behind Tosh's head in Torchwood, the thing that I think looks like Babylon 5. Hm. Does this mean then that Babylon 5 would function as a giant sonic disruptor canon? ... probably not. But man would that have surprised the heck out of the Shadows and Vorlons.
-Also, archiving in brown paper shopping bags? Ooo, we are high tech and super-secret at Lodmoor Research Facility, we are indeed. Well, maybe there's been budget cuts though.
-Sure. Like the door randomly swinging open wouldn't be noticed.
-Ooo. Nasty sonic disruption effects with the skin splitting on Tosh's mom's forehead. Yipe.
-UNIT!!!! \o/ Hee!
-Poor Tosh. It is cool that they've shown the passage of time by also having her hair be a bit longer when Jack comes to get her out.
-"For a man with my charisma, that's quite and achievement." Pft. *pats Jack*
-"The plans don't work." Hahahahahahahaha! Awesome. Tosh is a gadgeteer.
-"Why would you trust me?" "Instinct." Also, we know where your mom is, so no one's blackmailing you into doing treason by threatening her again.
-Interesting how the earpieces change between eras. the 1999 one had a little blue light. The 2003 version looks a bit like it's made out of Lego, but that's fine.
-Ianto looks appropriately owwied. The foam brick jiggling around on his back is a bit silly though.
-I love Ianto's backstory. Because it all ties back through into Cyberwoman and him needing a place to keep Lisa. Also, YAY PTERODACTYL! \o/
-"Love the coat" Don't we all.
-Ianto at Jack's door the next morning with coffee. Hee! Stalker!
-August 19th 1983, making him a Leo, I think. And 25. Wow. I really feel old now. :-P
-Susie. Hee.
-"So you're not gonna help me catch this pterodactyl then?" HEEE! \o/
-I love the pterodactyl-catching scenes with Jack and Ianto. Absolute love. All of it. If I go through noting bits I'll be here all night. Absolutely wonderful. Even the dodgy 'Jack hanging from its leg' and 'when did Ianto figure out the chocolate' and 'since when is a leg a central nervous cortex' and assorted quibbling. *handwaves everything* *glee*
-Oh, and Ianto's face walking away. Oh.
-And back to the foam bricks. Those red ones on his back. Yeah those. The foley guys didn't even bother sticking in a 'bricks moving' noise for them.
-Really, Owen should be mashed. He was just about standing over the bomb when it went off. He should be a chunky mass of undead pulp. Which would suck, but there you go.
-Hee! It's like the window has an awareness of what he's doing. Evil window's gonna get him!
-Oh, Owen's backstory. Oh. Ow.
-Gwen dear, shouting "Oi!" at the window will not make it stop falling. Unless it really is aware of what's going on, and is being all menace-y because it's an eeeeevil window. Even so, shouting at it probably still won't help.
-It's so easy to buy Captain John as the jealous psycho ex. Hm.
Torchwood 2.13 - Exit Wounds
-OW.
-What, you want more? Okay, fine.
-Why is there no interior shot of the bunch of them stuffed into the little two-door Saab 900s hatchback and discussing strategy? Probably wouldn't help the tension level, but it would be cute. Actually, thinking of it, there must be an 'everyone crammed into the car and jabbing each other with elbows and backseat driving' missing scene fic out there somewhere, right?
-Good shocks on that thing though for being so loaded and not scraping the muffler on the ground on those turns.
-"We don't have a song, and if we did have a song, it wouldn't be this one." Hee. Does make me wonder which of them would be the 'Starship Trooper' though.
-Rhys. I love Rhys. He's so... Rhys. Hee.
-Central Server building. Houses the central computer processing stuff for all the tactically important crap within a hundred miles. So. Take out the one building and the whole place goes to hell. Awesome. And paint a big red target on the side while you're at it. Yeesh.
-Heee! Hi Reapers! Bye Reapers! Once again, for the thicker monsters in the class, when confronting the heroes or their allies, do not stand around speechifying. You will get splatted.
-Ya know, I'm still having a hard time figuring out how much of what Captain John has done/is doing is because Grey is calling the shots and how much is Captain John being a nutbag. I think most of it is Grey calling the shots, all the way back to 2.01, buuuut... Hm.
-Barrowman's not doing so hot on the 'looking like he's actually hanging by his hands' thing, is he? I can tell he's standing on a platform from the way his arms are wiggling. If his weight was entirely supported by those chains, his arms wouldn't be wiggling like that and neither would the rest of him. Unless he has bones like a bird. Even so, his center of mass is way off.
-Also, seriously, this is the second season finale where he's been chained up. End of Season 3 Doctor Who he was chained up in a similar fashion for a whole year (that kind of unhappened, but whatever). That might make a guy anti-bondage at that.
-Ohhhhhhh.... Captain John going 'Stop me. I hope you can. Really' takes on a whole new light taking what happens later in this episode into account, doesn't it? Because if Jack stops John, Jack might escape Grey's plans for him. (And also prevent massive explosions in downtown Cardiff, but that's a bonus.) Ohhh.
-And ohh, the little shiver in his voice at 'What am I about to do to you?' Okay. I think I'm buying more and more that most of the actions Captain John has taken are at Grey's bidding. Ooo.
-"Eye Candy!" Hee!
-Love the sneaky/psycho 'Hold me' thing that turns out to be a trick so they'll both go with John's time jump thingy. Sneaky. Also, the resigned and tired tone he's using for John's lines make it more evident that this is not his idea.
-PC Andy is cute when he's flustered.
-...ooookay... who was that on Gwen's comm saying something about the rift manipulator? It wasn't Tosh... she wasn't saying anything there... Hm.
-I really love that even thought Gwen's just getting sitreps and giving orders over the comm, she's still talking with her hands and making little calming gestures like the rest of the team's in front of her and can see.
-Interesting that they are using a different filter for 27AD Cardiff. The light is different. Bluer.
-"You're so self-obsessed you thought I'd want to blow up your stupid city" Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
-Yeah, I kinda figured the reunion with Grey wasn't going to be a good one.
-"Get a shovel." As I said when the gang was watching this, WHERE??? It's 27AD and there's not even a hut in sight. But someone pinted out that they'd probably brought back shovels with them. I'm trying to figure out now though, how Grey got back there. John seemed surprised to see him, so I doubt he brought him back on an earlier trip, and if Grey's there, then doesn't that mean he can set off the John-bomb, and so therefore John wouldn't say anything, but... I'm thinking too much about this aren't I?
-I see John and Grey have gone to the Winchester Academy of Digging Perfectly Squared-Off Holes in the Ground. *nods*
-Grey has a weird square scar on his neck, like one of those mood patch things from "Gridlock" Hmm...
-Yay, John for at least trying to speak up.
-Captain Jack has a serious guilt complex. Or martyr complex. In any case, much easier to have when you can't actually die, I'd guess.
-Yeah, sentimental value, suuure. Jack, your brother's an idiot.
-The dirt... looks a lot like coffee grounds... Hm.
-Oh! So Grey can time jump on his own then.... that's convenient.
-Rhys is awesome. Aw.
-"On your knees!" "Honestly, it's just sex, sex, sex with you people." Ha! Well, yeah, it kind of is with this bunch, but still HA!
-James Marsters does some really cool things here with the line delivery. It's quite good!
-Weevil alarm! Wow that's an annoying noise.
-Hee! I can see the cluster of about six guys in weevil outfits repeating in the 'weevils running amok in the streets' scenes. Have them run one way, then another, then another, map them all together and you only need a third as many people spending several hours in a makeup chair having rubber glued to their face.
-King of the Weevils! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Hee! So that wasn't just an effect of the demon thing that went away when Owen barfed it out. Cool. And another dangling plotline I hadn't thought was there is resolved (none too soon *pats poor Owen*)
-What did Rhys say there?
-Yay, action Ianto!
-"A question of honour." From Captain John. Hunh. Cool.
-Hee! Owen with the fast-talk!
-See, like I said, I knew going into these that Owen and Tosh were toast. *kicks spoilers*
-Ooo. Gutshot. That's not good.
-Grey's oars aren't exactly in the water are they. The flattened way he's playing the character works with the backstory too. Though I seriously wonder how Grey lived as long as he did.
-Where did Captain John get the PDA-like thing he's messing with in the cell? Oh right, it's the Weevil Alarm.... Uh... okay sure.
-Oh, Tosh.
-Okay, memory is bad, did they have a little thing earlier about not touching that particular morgue drawer before? And Torchwood's files on Jack all along would have included the fact that they had this second Jack... heh... in a box. Sorry. The who knew about Jack being there and all the attendant ramifications (especially in light of their other long-term corpsicle guest they were waking up each year) thing is beyond my brain capacity at the moment. Bears thinking though.
-The backside of Grey's pants are striped like a bumblebee! Hee! A really depressed browny-drab bumblebee, but definitely striped. Why is Grey apparently wearing cloth armor anyway?
-So, Jack's buried from 27AD to 1901AD. 1874 years, give or take a few months. Call it about, let's be generous, thirty minutes for each death and revival? (who knows how he gets the energy or raw materials to keep reviving, but it's all a kind of unexplained handwavey Tardis/Rose magic phenomenon thing anyway) 525,600 minutes a year, 984,974,400 minutes in 1874 years is roughly Jack dying 32,832,480 times, and doing nothing else. Alone. In the dark. HOW IS HE STILL SANE???
-20 feet down. There's been some sedimentary action in the last 1874 years because that was no 20 foot deep hole they dug in 27 AD.
-In 1901, they had cryogenics in Torchwood. Cooool. Har har. Pun. Sorry.
-"The one who lived." OMG, Captain Jack is Harry Potter??? o.O
-What's too late to a Time Agent?
-Chloroform? Still? Okay....
-Oh Tosh. The whole not telling Owen about being shot so that he can keep it together and face his own death without being a pointlessly raging psycho is very ow. And I really wish I hadn't been spoiled for it. I do find it interesting, though, that the Torchwood med bay has trays full of pre-filled morphine needles laying around handy.
-Yike. That's not an easy death for Owen, that whole... yeah.
-Heeeee! And as was pointed out, they retcon Tosh appearing as a medic in "Aliens of London" with the space pig. YAY CONTINUITY!!! \o/
-Tosh went so still when Owen started talking about the date they never had that I thought she'd died then.
-And like I said before, Grey frozen in a drawer? That decision is not going to come back to bite them in the ass at some point in the future at all, is it?
-Wow. Captain John's actually sane. There's a twist I hadn't been expecting. He's such a fun sociopath though. Oh well, maybe some random roaming around earth in the 21st century with drive him nuts. Or maybe he'll settle down with a nice poodle.
-Oof. Clearing up stuff. Oof.
-"An incident with a toaster." You gotta watch out for those toasters. They're evil. They're in league with the windows. Eeeeeevil. *nods*
-None of these people are pretty criers.
-"The end is where we start from." That's deep. Or depressing, because as soon as you think you're done with one thing, it's the beginning all over again, dammit. Heh. Sorry.
Okay, so there we are, I'm now up to date on Torchwood. Not remotely up to date on Doctor Who yet though, so no spoilers for Season 4, okay?
I knew Tosh and Owen were going to die going into the finale for Torchwood, so arg. Though I was kind of thinking one of them might die during Fragments. Also knew that Captain John would be back, but not as a spoiler because, hellooooo he's got a big old dangling plotline that needs resolved or addressed.
Also a little different because I've watched them through once with the gang *waves to gang* So there will be retroactive-in-advance reactions to things that are going to be happening later on. Or something like that.
Torchwood 2.12 - Fragments
-First off, CANON BACKSTORY COOL!! \o/Even cooler because beyond the obvious stuff for Jack and for Gwen, I hadn't put enough thought into backstory for the characters in this series yet to have a pet theory that this contradicts, so yay!
-Ianto's hard on tires... Or was Jack driving?
-That the bombs give off signals like lifeforms is really cool. I kind of hope it's some artificial 'Hi! I'm a Lifeform!" signal and not that John's trapped lifeforms of some kind inside the bombs, which would be entirely possible, but kinda grim.
-I LOVE THIS BUILDING!!! With all the space and the brick... alley... stall... whatsis thingys in the middle of the room.
-What the heck is Jack pointing his gun at half the time? Right now on pause he's lethally menacing a brick wall.
-Also, John Barrowman's eyebrows are scary. Just when he's on pause though.
-Hee! Owen using hand signals with Ianto. *glee*
-"These creatures are very quiet." Entirely unlike Captain Jack with the talking out loud at full volume there. Twit. At least Owen lowers his voice.
-Ya know, for being at ground zero here, the team survived quite well. Good bomb placement though, for maximum separation of team members.
-Gwen misses getting blown up with the team because she slept in? That's kind of lame. Looks like it was a hell of a party, though, counting the alcohol bottles in the bedroom (nine in the current pause frame), the candles balloons and ribbons, and the fact that Rhys is sleeping the wrong way around on the bed. Hee.
-"1392 deaths earlier." Hee.
-Yeah, the two women calmly watching a dead man come back to life in a gaslight-era alley aren't Torchwood at aaaaaall.
-"Why aren't you dead yet?" *snerk* Love how bored and annoyed she sounds.
-Phantasmagoria is a word that is not used nearly as often as it should be. *nods*
-"He re-fuels from that rift you have." Hm. Okay. On occasion.
-Okay, most of the infractions Jack lists off involve being seen by humans. How does the blowfish kid do that without people noticing he's got the head of a fish? Does he have a personal Chameleon circuit or what? Or maybe Wales had an outbreak of Deep Ones and this 'people looking like fish' business is old hat.
-Torchwood/Call of Cthulhu. Ooo.
-WHOA!!! Hold on. Victorian Era Torchwood has a freaking SUBMARINE??? In that shot of the round door with the bridge thing and the crane, at the bottom there's something that looks like a submarine. Awesome! Maybe it isn't though.
-Wow, paper money back then was flimsy.
-The brown-haired Torchwood woman (who, seriously, how old is she, 18?) looks a bit like Susie...
-Hm. Apparently non-discriminatory flirting has always been a facet of Torchwood hiring practices. Cool.
-I love that they brought the girl from "Day in the Death" in. She's awesome and now I really want to know about her. I hope they have her again next season. She hasn't aged, she's psychic, and she's very connected to Torchwood in some unspecified way, I think. Nifty.
-The Doctor is the Knight of Swords? I always figured him more as... well, I don't know really because I know nothing about Tarot. One of the Major Arcana for sure.
-Hee. So Jack joined Torchwood so he wouldn't get bored waiting for the Doctor to show up. And then it took him a century before he got command of the place. Not an upwardly-mobile fellow is our Jack, hrm?
-Love the report montage, with the different record-keeping methods and so forth. It pings the writing geek in me big time.
-Not going to transcribe all the report writing going on though, because I bet someone else already has.
-Also, the office-supplies-obsessed part of me geeks out totally at the different methods of securing Jack's photo to the report. Eeee! Straight pin! Hee!
-I'm also sure someone's isolated that old Torchwood logo. I forget, have they ever said what's up with the hexagons? Not that hexagons aren't totally awesome and stuff, I just kind of wonder why Torchwood picked them.
-New Year's Eve! 1999! AKA The night the Fox Tele-movie happened, and over in
-*koff* So yeah. For those who weren't aware of this previously, I've been a Doctor Who fan for a long time. Just quietly.
-Anyway, the net result of events in San Francisco at the Y2K New Year is 'nothing happened' so I guess the canon of 'nothing happening' has been confirmed. Woo?
-Also, the 21st century technically didn't start 'til 2001, so buddy here could have gone an entire year before offing his team.
-Hee! Jack sounds all happy and teenagery coming into Torchwood and hanging up his coat.
-A century and a murder-suicide to get promoted to head of Torchwood 3. They really didn't trust him, hunh? I guess the whole 'trying to find the Doctor' went against Torchwood's whole foundation of "Doctor=threat to the empire" Kind of like becoming the head of Microsoft and being an avowed Mac user, I guess. Hm...
-Blue shiny pendant thing that knows the future. Ooooo...
-It's interesting that Jack's the least covered in rubble, yet he's the one that got killed in the blast. Well, kind of obvious really, but there you are.
-HEEE! Rhys! "He was dead!" *snerk* They'll make an operative out of you yet, boyo.
-Heee! To Jack's reaction to Rhys. Awesome. :-D
-I like Tosh's backstory. It suits her well.
-How thoughtful of whatever organization Tosh is working for to have a vision-impaired-friendly readout for its "what part of the archive are the super-secret plans in" thingy. Or for those occasions when you're far away from the screen. Like say in the building across the street. Yeesh.
-Yeah, the motion-sensitive lights coming on as she runs down the hallway aren't suspicious at all.
-Does no one in TV-land care about leaving fingerprints behind anymore?
-Okay, there was no identifying code on that envelope... meh. Maybe it was on a shelf tag. Like at a grocery store. Yeah. *handwaves*
-I still say that blueprint of the tube thing looks like the thing that's often on the screen behind Tosh's head in Torchwood, the thing that I think looks like Babylon 5. Hm. Does this mean then that Babylon 5 would function as a giant sonic disruptor canon? ... probably not. But man would that have surprised the heck out of the Shadows and Vorlons.
-Also, archiving in brown paper shopping bags? Ooo, we are high tech and super-secret at Lodmoor Research Facility, we are indeed. Well, maybe there's been budget cuts though.
-Sure. Like the door randomly swinging open wouldn't be noticed.
-Ooo. Nasty sonic disruption effects with the skin splitting on Tosh's mom's forehead. Yipe.
-UNIT!!!! \o/ Hee!
-Poor Tosh. It is cool that they've shown the passage of time by also having her hair be a bit longer when Jack comes to get her out.
-"For a man with my charisma, that's quite and achievement." Pft. *pats Jack*
-"The plans don't work." Hahahahahahahaha! Awesome. Tosh is a gadgeteer.
-"Why would you trust me?" "Instinct." Also, we know where your mom is, so no one's blackmailing you into doing treason by threatening her again.
-Interesting how the earpieces change between eras. the 1999 one had a little blue light. The 2003 version looks a bit like it's made out of Lego, but that's fine.
-Ianto looks appropriately owwied. The foam brick jiggling around on his back is a bit silly though.
-I love Ianto's backstory. Because it all ties back through into Cyberwoman and him needing a place to keep Lisa. Also, YAY PTERODACTYL! \o/
-"Love the coat" Don't we all.
-Ianto at Jack's door the next morning with coffee. Hee! Stalker!
-August 19th 1983, making him a Leo, I think. And 25. Wow. I really feel old now. :-P
-Susie. Hee.
-"So you're not gonna help me catch this pterodactyl then?" HEEE! \o/
-I love the pterodactyl-catching scenes with Jack and Ianto. Absolute love. All of it. If I go through noting bits I'll be here all night. Absolutely wonderful. Even the dodgy 'Jack hanging from its leg' and 'when did Ianto figure out the chocolate' and 'since when is a leg a central nervous cortex' and assorted quibbling. *handwaves everything* *glee*
-Oh, and Ianto's face walking away. Oh.
-And back to the foam bricks. Those red ones on his back. Yeah those. The foley guys didn't even bother sticking in a 'bricks moving' noise for them.
-Really, Owen should be mashed. He was just about standing over the bomb when it went off. He should be a chunky mass of undead pulp. Which would suck, but there you go.
-Hee! It's like the window has an awareness of what he's doing. Evil window's gonna get him!
-Oh, Owen's backstory. Oh. Ow.
-Gwen dear, shouting "Oi!" at the window will not make it stop falling. Unless it really is aware of what's going on, and is being all menace-y because it's an eeeeevil window. Even so, shouting at it probably still won't help.
-It's so easy to buy Captain John as the jealous psycho ex. Hm.
Torchwood 2.13 - Exit Wounds
-OW.
-What, you want more? Okay, fine.
-Why is there no interior shot of the bunch of them stuffed into the little two-door Saab 900s hatchback and discussing strategy? Probably wouldn't help the tension level, but it would be cute. Actually, thinking of it, there must be an 'everyone crammed into the car and jabbing each other with elbows and backseat driving' missing scene fic out there somewhere, right?
-Good shocks on that thing though for being so loaded and not scraping the muffler on the ground on those turns.
-"We don't have a song, and if we did have a song, it wouldn't be this one." Hee. Does make me wonder which of them would be the 'Starship Trooper' though.
-Rhys. I love Rhys. He's so... Rhys. Hee.
-Central Server building. Houses the central computer processing stuff for all the tactically important crap within a hundred miles. So. Take out the one building and the whole place goes to hell. Awesome. And paint a big red target on the side while you're at it. Yeesh.
-Heee! Hi Reapers! Bye Reapers! Once again, for the thicker monsters in the class, when confronting the heroes or their allies, do not stand around speechifying. You will get splatted.
-Ya know, I'm still having a hard time figuring out how much of what Captain John has done/is doing is because Grey is calling the shots and how much is Captain John being a nutbag. I think most of it is Grey calling the shots, all the way back to 2.01, buuuut... Hm.
-Barrowman's not doing so hot on the 'looking like he's actually hanging by his hands' thing, is he? I can tell he's standing on a platform from the way his arms are wiggling. If his weight was entirely supported by those chains, his arms wouldn't be wiggling like that and neither would the rest of him. Unless he has bones like a bird. Even so, his center of mass is way off.
-Also, seriously, this is the second season finale where he's been chained up. End of Season 3 Doctor Who he was chained up in a similar fashion for a whole year (that kind of unhappened, but whatever). That might make a guy anti-bondage at that.
-Ohhhhhhh.... Captain John going 'Stop me. I hope you can. Really' takes on a whole new light taking what happens later in this episode into account, doesn't it? Because if Jack stops John, Jack might escape Grey's plans for him. (And also prevent massive explosions in downtown Cardiff, but that's a bonus.) Ohhh.
-And ohh, the little shiver in his voice at 'What am I about to do to you?' Okay. I think I'm buying more and more that most of the actions Captain John has taken are at Grey's bidding. Ooo.
-"Eye Candy!" Hee!
-Love the sneaky/psycho 'Hold me' thing that turns out to be a trick so they'll both go with John's time jump thingy. Sneaky. Also, the resigned and tired tone he's using for John's lines make it more evident that this is not his idea.
-PC Andy is cute when he's flustered.
-...ooookay... who was that on Gwen's comm saying something about the rift manipulator? It wasn't Tosh... she wasn't saying anything there... Hm.
-I really love that even thought Gwen's just getting sitreps and giving orders over the comm, she's still talking with her hands and making little calming gestures like the rest of the team's in front of her and can see.
-Interesting that they are using a different filter for 27AD Cardiff. The light is different. Bluer.
-"You're so self-obsessed you thought I'd want to blow up your stupid city" Heeeeeeeeeeeeeee!
-Yeah, I kinda figured the reunion with Grey wasn't going to be a good one.
-"Get a shovel." As I said when the gang was watching this, WHERE??? It's 27AD and there's not even a hut in sight. But someone pinted out that they'd probably brought back shovels with them. I'm trying to figure out now though, how Grey got back there. John seemed surprised to see him, so I doubt he brought him back on an earlier trip, and if Grey's there, then doesn't that mean he can set off the John-bomb, and so therefore John wouldn't say anything, but... I'm thinking too much about this aren't I?
-I see John and Grey have gone to the Winchester Academy of Digging Perfectly Squared-Off Holes in the Ground. *nods*
-Grey has a weird square scar on his neck, like one of those mood patch things from "Gridlock" Hmm...
-Yay, John for at least trying to speak up.
-Captain Jack has a serious guilt complex. Or martyr complex. In any case, much easier to have when you can't actually die, I'd guess.
-Yeah, sentimental value, suuure. Jack, your brother's an idiot.
-The dirt... looks a lot like coffee grounds... Hm.
-Oh! So Grey can time jump on his own then.... that's convenient.
-Rhys is awesome. Aw.
-"On your knees!" "Honestly, it's just sex, sex, sex with you people." Ha! Well, yeah, it kind of is with this bunch, but still HA!
-James Marsters does some really cool things here with the line delivery. It's quite good!
-Weevil alarm! Wow that's an annoying noise.
-Hee! I can see the cluster of about six guys in weevil outfits repeating in the 'weevils running amok in the streets' scenes. Have them run one way, then another, then another, map them all together and you only need a third as many people spending several hours in a makeup chair having rubber glued to their face.
-King of the Weevils! YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH! Hee! So that wasn't just an effect of the demon thing that went away when Owen barfed it out. Cool. And another dangling plotline I hadn't thought was there is resolved (none too soon *pats poor Owen*)
-What did Rhys say there?
-Yay, action Ianto!
-"A question of honour." From Captain John. Hunh. Cool.
-Hee! Owen with the fast-talk!
-See, like I said, I knew going into these that Owen and Tosh were toast. *kicks spoilers*
-Ooo. Gutshot. That's not good.
-Grey's oars aren't exactly in the water are they. The flattened way he's playing the character works with the backstory too. Though I seriously wonder how Grey lived as long as he did.
-Where did Captain John get the PDA-like thing he's messing with in the cell? Oh right, it's the Weevil Alarm.... Uh... okay sure.
-Oh, Tosh.
-Okay, memory is bad, did they have a little thing earlier about not touching that particular morgue drawer before? And Torchwood's files on Jack all along would have included the fact that they had this second Jack... heh... in a box. Sorry. The who knew about Jack being there and all the attendant ramifications (especially in light of their other long-term corpsicle guest they were waking up each year) thing is beyond my brain capacity at the moment. Bears thinking though.
-The backside of Grey's pants are striped like a bumblebee! Hee! A really depressed browny-drab bumblebee, but definitely striped. Why is Grey apparently wearing cloth armor anyway?
-So, Jack's buried from 27AD to 1901AD. 1874 years, give or take a few months. Call it about, let's be generous, thirty minutes for each death and revival? (who knows how he gets the energy or raw materials to keep reviving, but it's all a kind of unexplained handwavey Tardis/Rose magic phenomenon thing anyway) 525,600 minutes a year, 984,974,400 minutes in 1874 years is roughly Jack dying 32,832,480 times, and doing nothing else. Alone. In the dark. HOW IS HE STILL SANE???
-20 feet down. There's been some sedimentary action in the last 1874 years because that was no 20 foot deep hole they dug in 27 AD.
-In 1901, they had cryogenics in Torchwood. Cooool. Har har. Pun. Sorry.
-"The one who lived." OMG, Captain Jack is Harry Potter??? o.O
-What's too late to a Time Agent?
-Chloroform? Still? Okay....
-Oh Tosh. The whole not telling Owen about being shot so that he can keep it together and face his own death without being a pointlessly raging psycho is very ow. And I really wish I hadn't been spoiled for it. I do find it interesting, though, that the Torchwood med bay has trays full of pre-filled morphine needles laying around handy.
-Yike. That's not an easy death for Owen, that whole... yeah.
-Heeeee! And as was pointed out, they retcon Tosh appearing as a medic in "Aliens of London" with the space pig. YAY CONTINUITY!!! \o/
-Tosh went so still when Owen started talking about the date they never had that I thought she'd died then.
-And like I said before, Grey frozen in a drawer? That decision is not going to come back to bite them in the ass at some point in the future at all, is it?
-Wow. Captain John's actually sane. There's a twist I hadn't been expecting. He's such a fun sociopath though. Oh well, maybe some random roaming around earth in the 21st century with drive him nuts. Or maybe he'll settle down with a nice poodle.
-Oof. Clearing up stuff. Oof.
-"An incident with a toaster." You gotta watch out for those toasters. They're evil. They're in league with the windows. Eeeeeevil. *nods*
-None of these people are pretty criers.
-"The end is where we start from." That's deep. Or depressing, because as soon as you think you're done with one thing, it's the beginning all over again, dammit. Heh. Sorry.
Okay, so there we are, I'm now up to date on Torchwood. Not remotely up to date on Doctor Who yet though, so no spoilers for Season 4, okay?