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caffienekitty) wrote2012-10-20 10:09 pm
caffienekitty) wrote2012-10-20 10:09 pm
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SPN 8.02 related speculation
Just a thought, had it after posting the reaction post and it's a bit heavy-spec for some of the spec-phobes that sometimes read my posts, so I thought I'd post it seperately.
...Did anyone else get the impression that the show is implying that Kevin's dad is Samandiriel?
He stopped himself from giving his angel name to Linda, and she wasn't too keen on angels and just said "the last time that angels tried to help my son" which doesn't really rule out that it's not the only time they've tried to help, or that it's not the only contact she's had with angels. Sooo, what if Kevin's half-angel? Show has had Jesse the half-demon anti-Christ who's still surfing in Australia for all we know, why not a half-angel Nephilim?
Could be a red herring, show is very fond of those.
As I said, just a thought. Please, no information regarding episodes past 8.02 in comments please.
...Did anyone else get the impression that the show is implying that Kevin's dad is Samandiriel?
He stopped himself from giving his angel name to Linda, and she wasn't too keen on angels and just said "the last time that angels tried to help my son" which doesn't really rule out that it's not the only time they've tried to help, or that it's not the only contact she's had with angels. Sooo, what if Kevin's half-angel? Show has had Jesse the half-demon anti-Christ who's still surfing in Australia for all we know, why not a half-angel Nephilim?
Could be a red herring, show is very fond of those.
As I said, just a thought. Please, no information regarding episodes past 8.02 in comments please.
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John only had the archangel host bloodline though, so unless Kevin's mom's in the rock-reader/prophet hosting bloodline, if there even is such a thing, then John's probably off the hook.
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But, now that you mention it, Samandriel's hesitancy to give Linda his actual name is very suspicious.
Personally though? My money's on Chuck being his father. They've always said that they want to bring Rob Benedict back somehow. :P
Plus, being (another) son of God would be a MASSIVE curve ball.
XD :D XD
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I still think Chuck wasn't actually God, but just hosting God, which by my theory of prophets being potential hosts of God means Kevin could host God too, but getting Chuck involved would definitely hook Kevin up to any hypothetical Prophet bloodline. *shrug*
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...thing I do not understand: the archangels, Castiel, Uriel, and Samandiriel have canonical angel names. Every other angel we've ever met ever does not. I mean, they're all Bible names--Zachariah, Rachel, Esther (and even if that's actually Hester it's the same name just spelled different), even Anna though she wouldn't count against the pattern because that's the name her human parents gave her. But the angel names mostly don't come from the Bible.
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You'd think that most of the angels that appear on the show would have names ending in the suffix '-iel', like they do in mythology. But they haven't and I'd love to know the writers' reasoning for that.
Carrying on your train of thought: Balthazar's name was actually one of the names of the three Wise Men. I can't remember whether Anna was ever actually referred to as 'Anael' by other angels (which is an actual angel name) or whether that is actually just fanon. Either way.
As for Castiel? His name isn't a real angel name in any religious mythology. 'Cassiel' is a real angel name, but I'm pretty sure the name 'Castiel' was just made up by the writers as it doesn't actually appear anywhere but in the show and it isn't one of the many other names that Cassiel was also called either.
'Cassiel' does sound a little girly to me, though. So maybe Castiel actually is based on that angel, and they just changed his name slightly. After all, Cassiel is one of the seven archangels in the Judeo-Christian religion, so it does sort-of fit what's happened to Castiel in the show so far. Who knows? :P
XD :D XD
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Anna's never been called anything but Anna onscreen. Which is bizarre, especially from 1978!Uriel, if her angel name is Anael. I mean, I am inclined to think it is and the middle name her parents gave her is Elizabeth or Ellen or some such thing because she told them her name while in utero, but she has never been called anything but Anna.
I thought Castiel-the-angel-of-Thursday appeared on lists of angel names predating his appearance on Supernatural on a Thursday?
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Okie dokie, thanks for confirming that. I never could remember her being called anything but Anna on the show either, but calling her 'Anael' is popular fanon, and one that I find myself not really being all that opposed to.
She got nuked by Michael, regardless. So I suppose it matters little. ;P
Oh? I thought Sachiel was the angel of Thursday?
I heard that the thing about Castiel being the Angel of Thursday was a running joke amongst the cast and crew as a result of the show running on a thursday, not to allude to it. Maybe I heard wrong, I'm not sure?
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According to the Heptameron, a handbook of ritual published in 1496 in Venice by a guy called Peter de Abano, Thursday has three Angels: Sachiel, Castiel, and Asasiel.
The Esoteric Archives is a fascinating resource; it's been making my browser history an occasionally more alarming place since about 2006-ish. The Key of Solomon's in there too, which in the show is the source of the Devil's Trap and other nifty things to draw on stuff, but is an actual historical publication on magic and ritual, written in the 16th century.
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Personally, I think the names not all having the -el suffix is probably just the writers trying to add variation. Or, from a theology perspective, it implies that angels can develop from dead humans, like demons do. Zachariah and the rest of the non-els could be former humans who became angels. Again, theory.
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